text: In reply to message69504: Well the gen 5's have 4 different grip attachments which I think is outstanding. So the ergos are great in my opinion. Have no issues with the gen 5 sights, they're very basic and simple, would like some tritiums or an rmr though. Could never hate on S&W, love the company and their products, the m&p 2.0's are awesome. Viking Tactical has some solid products, been runnin their vtac sling for a few years now.