text: In reply to message14240: I'm going to start with some disclaimers before my observation. Firstly. This is not my first group. I have been in several groups. One state sized organization and more national. Second. I am new here so I will acknowledge I dont know enough about the leadership in this group to fully say it is one way or the other. So I typically observe mostly quietly. And for the most part what I see is presentable and with the right idea.Thirdly, and most importantly (because what i am about to say may make some waves). What I am about to say is not any form of attack or a negative mention for the group as a whole. I would normally heed my own advice and send this via PM. However this situation has with it some exigent circumstances. So again. To all reading this. I am not saying it out of spite. I feel it is important, and I say it with respect. Here goes. My experience in many other groups has taught me a lot. And I will say this. Every last one of them fell apart from the top down. My personal opinion is because of statements like this. One of the groups I was in previously included Ken whome was appointed CO of my state for this organization. And to my estimation a response like this is more damaging than anything Ken said. Which I happen to know from personal experience as I have worked alongside several sheriffs offices and contacted many more from our state over the years. It wasn't a negative statement trying to hurt the cause. It was a situational observation from boots on the ground. Ken has contacts in law enforcement. As do I. Every last department I have worked along side during crisis. Was happy to have our help. But, quietly. No publicity and no real affiliation. Passively acknowledged our existence but not ready at this point to commit to supporting this cause. This is political. So the strategy is, keep us on their mind by reaching out often. But not often enough to be a neusance. And informing them of our movements if and when there are some. Negatively shaming a subordinate in front of his or her peers is much more detrimental to a unit than stating what we know to be true on the ground in our AO. A leader should praise in public, correct in private. If indeed correcting needs to be done. Even more detrimental is a leader who appoints someone and then says this to them in front of everyone. Over an issue that I also happen to know that you do not in fact know as you've stated here because you haven't talked to us about it. Most of the issues these groups have is they are at odds with each other so as leaders we need to set the tone and example of working out issues in private. And I am aware that this sounds hypocritical posting here. But I think that all leaders here would benefit from hearing it. I dont want to see this group fail as I have seen the others. So please take all this as constructive criticism