text: In reply to message69500: I totally agree. Also, here’s a thought. A lot of beginners shy away from Glock saying they stove pipe a lot. If you get the chance, watch them shoot. They usually don’t hold it right so the pistol jumps and bites the casing. If you’ve never been in a real gun fight there is no possible way too predict how you will react. So if you happen to present and fire before you get a proper grip it could cost you your life. Just a theory I have and another reason I stick with Smith & Wesson. Haha!