text: In reply to message77473: I have just bought level 4 ceramic polyurethane plates(multi hit) they weigh 3.1 lbs each where my level 4 shooter cut way 8.2 lbs each saving me 10-11lbs witch feels great...now only thing is ceramic plates are about .5 in thicker(estimated) witch doesn't bother me cause I don't keep mags up chest area on my carrier