text: In reply to message54907: I stand by that. Kids are given too much slack. The earlier you teach them respect for their parents, their country.... the better. Most kids today don't have either and they end up confused and lost, thinking they are owed everything. I'm stopping the self entitlement, American hate, etc NOW.You do need both parents on the same team though. Thats really where it stems from. Lots of love, patience, and understanding with a firm hand and a good strong team... thats what kids need. Because when the team is divided... the kids will learn how to manipulate the side they want and they will also pick a side and it causes a slow disease of separation within a relationship.