text: In reply to message54265: My rule #1 NO smart devices in my house, ever. There is no compromise, it can be done. It just takes extra research. The only thing my internet provider sees is my router. #2 VPN your home router hiding every device connected to it. #3 absolutely NO GOOGLE, ALEXA type devices anywhere in your home. They're always listening even when they're not. I'm also ditching my 2 Google connected mobile phones for DeGoogled OS devices fully encrypted and constant VPN.