text: In reply to message1746: I myself have spent at minimum a coupe of thousand dollars on this group. I expect no return in that investment. I have spent countless hours on this group and I expect no return on that investment either. I have over 60 reactive steel targets on my ranges all except one I have paid for. All target frames and up keep are at my expense. I built both ranges using my labor and equipment and still ask for very little to no help. I am not brining I NG this up for recognition or praise but as a reason I am in this at all. I believe in what I am doing and what we are supposed to stand for. Yes I have felt discouraged at times and wanted to quit. But like in the Army my pride would not let me fall out of a run no matter how bad it got. All this arguing is showing how little pride each has in themselves and their people. If I thought I had to depend on someone else to do what I should then how can I lead. Now let’s all move on to some subject that will help this group to grow into what it is meant to be.